Beam Cross through 3 staves
I need help with getting a beam across all 3 staves, like in the picture below
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I need help with getting a beam across all 3 staves, like in the picture below
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There is a workaround:
![Cross-staff workaround for three staves.png]( "Cross-staff workaround for three staves.png")
1. Create dummy notes on the top stave, make them invisible and silent.
2. Add the cross-staff notes you need straight on the lowest stave, with a beam - make beam invisible.
3. For the "cross-staff" notes on the lowest stave, turn off Automatic Placement for their stems.
4. Extend the stems right up to the top stave.
In reply to There is a workaround: 1. … by DanielR
Thanks a lot for your answer ;)
Create them all in the middle staff, move some to the staff above, the others to the staff below, as per https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/cross-staff-notation
In reply to Create them all in the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Okay thank you!
Alternative approach; start from the middle staff in a different voice.
This allows you to cross-staff up and down, then correct the beam position and hide the superfluous rests and correct beam directions in the middle staff.
In reply to Alternative approach; start… by jeetee
Thank you for your help!
In reply to Thank you for your help! by Tropax
Is this measure even playable if you don't have three feet?
In reply to Is this measure even… by bobjp
It is a piano piece by Prokofiev so I'll assume yes
In reply to It is a piano piece by… by Tropax
I know you are only interested in reproducing what you see. That's fine.
I'm just asking myself, from a notation standpoint, what is the advantage of putting the last two 8th notes in the bottom bass clef? Rather than the one above it.
In reply to I know you are only… by bobjp
I don't know, maybe he thought it was easier do read, or just because he liked how it looked xD.
It's an urtext score so it wasn't edited, Prokofiev wrote it that way
In reply to I don't know, maybe he… by Tropax
Sorry. I know my comments are off topic and probably out of line. But still, I see other of his pieces use odd notation. Like a piece where a low bass note is tied across 13 measures. I did notice one urtext version of a section with three staves where the editor reproduced the original plus their suggestion of the same 8 measures on two staves. This made much more sense.
In reply to Sorry. I know my comments… by bobjp
Was it the same section I asked, or a different piece?
Yes but he uses odd notation, and uses diagonal lines to indicate voice changes, something I have never seen before.
He also uses other odd things as well, for instance, I transcribed his ballade for piano and cello, and there was a part where the left hand had 6/4 tempo and the right hand had 4/4
In reply to Alternative approach; start… by jeetee
I'm afraid Musescore has a little problem with this method. For example, if you select the four eighth notes in the bottom staff, the selection mark appears in the middle one. Small software bug?
![Cross-staff across three staves.png]( "Cross-staff across three staves.png")
In reply to I'm afraid Musescore has a… by HildeK
Not a bug. that's where those note really belong to
In reply to I'm afraid Musescore has a… by HildeK
I went with Jojo-schmitz method and it worked out fine. And that's because, originally you put all the notes on the middle staff and then use cross staff beaming to put them up and down, so they technically are in the midle staff.
In reply to I went with Jojo-schmidtz… by Tropax
Drop the d, here in Germany it is either Schmitz or Schmidt (or Schmitt), but never Schmidtz ;-)
Edit, fixed above now
In reply to Drop the d, here in Germany… by Jojo-Schmitz
Oops, thanks for the heads-up