How do I transpose from a Musician playing an instrument to a musician singing?
This may be odd for orchestral musicians and people who are writing orchestral music. There are some orchestral pieces that require the musicians in the orchestra to sing or to say something.
Here's an example of a performance of Oskar Navarro's Libertadores where in one part the orchestra musicians are singing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXu__jhB82w Skip to the 3:34 mark so you can hear how the musicians transpose to singing and then go back to playing their instruments. And then at Mark 4:01, The string players are playing their instruments again.
I just don't know how to do this in any score. Can you please help me out with this?
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A simple change of keysig?
No, I don't think there is any key signature change, nor any transposing
In reply to A simple change of keysig? by Jojo-Schmitz
I’m talking about musicians singing in an orchestra, and NOT transposing key signatures!
In reply to I’m talking about musicians… by Arianna2001
OK, so I missunderstood your How do I transpose
Just add singing voices as additional instruments (Soprano, Alto, etc), enter the music, use hide empty staves
Use an instrument change.
In reply to Use an instrument change. by mike320
That is an option too of course, but as there are 2 such changes (instrument->voice->instrument) and for many instruments, there are many additional channels in the mixer. Also the singers might be assignd to different sections, like one violinist might sing Soprano, another Alto.
In reply to That is an option too of… by Jojo-Schmitz
So i’m Supposed to change an instrument sound, and in the staff text, I should write the word “Sing,” and then change back to the original instrument sound and either put down the word “Normale,” or “Play Instrument” in the Staff Text.
In reply to So i’m Supposed to change an… by Arianna2001
Yes. I would specify the instrument since it's more standard. Simply write "Clarinet" or "Trumpet" in place of "Change Instrument"
In reply to Yes. I would specify the… by mike320
Ok. I can do that. And while I select the Voice instrument when the Musician sings, I should also put down lyrics, and then the musician will go back to playing his or her instrument when I write the Instrument name and thee articulation “Normale,” which means Play Normally.
In reply to Ok. I can do that. And while… by Arianna2001
Normale? Only if applicable. If they were playing normal before this is not necessary. If a trumpet was playing muted or a violin play pizzicato this would be necessary.
In reply to Normale? Only if applicable… by mike320
Here's an attachment to see if I'm riight about that.
In reply to Here's an attachment to see… by Arianna2001
I've never seen "Normal" on a score to play with no special technique. This is a Midi thing only. In the case of a violin "Normal" means "Arco" as you wrote on the score. As I said, simply writing Violin would be sufficient sine the violin is not playing with another technique. So this is what I would do: Musician Singing Test.mscz
In reply to I've never seen "Normal" on… by mike320
You are right about the articulations. I think writing down the instrument names are a great idea!
In reply to You are right about the… by Arianna2001
If you had the violins playing pizzicato, switch to singing then start playing Arco. the Arco would be mandatory. If, in this example, after singing I wanted them to continue playing pizzicato I would probably put (pizz.) under the instrument name to remind the musicians that they are playing pizzicato and I intend for them to continue playing pizzicato.
In reply to If you had the violins… by mike320
Similar to the Violas, Celli, and Basses. But what about the other instruments like the Harp, Keyboards, Woodwinds, Brass, and Percussion?
In reply to Similar to the Violas, Celli… by Arianna2001
If they have special techniques like Brass instruments do I would do the same for them as I would pizzicato violins. If there are no special techniques, like a flute then the instrument is all you would ever need.
Instruments like Harp, keyboards and many percussion have the ability to sing and play at the same time. You might need a second staff for those instruments if they sing and play at the same time. In that case you would use "Hide Empty staves" in the Style->General menu. In the case of unpitched percussion, you will have no choice but to use a second staff for the notes to be sung since it is impossible to put other clefs and notes to sing on an unpitched percussion staff. You would use Text on the staves as though the staves were a continuation of the other staff. For example, you would use the voice staff under the snare drum staff and put staff text that says "Voice" where the singing begins and "Snare Drum" where the musician returns to drums. If the musician does both at the same time, then you need to conned the two stave. Be aware that there is a bug that prevents barlines on percussion from displaying in some circumstances (#262397: Bar lines on pitched staves do not span the entire staff when bars are spanned down to a percussion staff and hide empty staves is used.).
I've attached a sample score showing what I would do.
Musician Singing Test.mscz
In reply to If they have special… by mike320
So for the Brass and Woodwinds, after when they have finished singing, I would put down the instrument names. For example, for flute, I would ask the flutist to go back and play her instrument again by writing in the staff text, "Flute."
In reply to So for the Brass and… by Arianna2001
Yes.